Super Talent W1800UX2GP
Benchmark Reviews continues on with our High-Speed DDR3 Overclocking and Review Series, which features over one dozen different DDR3 kits. Many of the kits we have tested so far have helped achieve extremely uncommon overclock speeds, and even some of the kits not setting speed records managed to impress us with their combination of performance and value. So far, we have reviewed the Patriot PC3-15000 DDR3 1866MHz 2GB RAM Kit and Mushkin PC3-10666 DDR3 1333MHz RAM Kit HP3-10666, but today we are especially pleased to test the Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 W1800UX2GP DDR3 1800MHz 2x1GB RAM Kit.
While the Patriot PDC32G1866LLK kit may presently hold the title for the fastest DDR3 module produced, there are several others that overclock to nearly the same speed. Because of the very limited quantities and slowly growing demand, the prices are almost as high as the speeds; which makes it difficult to recommend the kit that is best for any particular need. Even when I approach a term like "best", not even an experienced analyst like me can tell you which DDR3 product is "the best kit" because at this early stage the concept of "best" takes on a relative meaning. But in terms of fastest ... well, it looks like Benchmark Reviews should have no problem helping you with that dilemma.
Many of the readers will probably not consider DDR3 an important part of the hardware market just yet, and in a few ways I can agree with them. It's expensive, and it's not going to change their system from a 2 to a 10. But I think that this argument only exists if you have missed the point: DDR3 is a more efficient replacement over DDR2 in many different ways, but high-speed DDR3 is intended for overclockers and enthusiasts almost exclusively. In a year from now, expect to have DDR3 pressed into your new motherboard. However for today, the demand behind DDR3 and its high-speed variants is best met by the growing number of hardware enthusiasts which push their equipment well past the stock settings.
All of this is great news for the overclocker, the hardcore gamer, and the hardware enthusiast; which has been the case every time high-end system memory parts arrive on the market. It wasn't all that long ago we all had SDRAM with 1 and 1.5CL timings, and then DDR arrived with CL3. Nobody complained then, so I'm not sure why they are starting now. It was the exact same story when DDR2 arrived to replace DDR; which nearly doubled the timings. So from a technical standpoint we should appreciate that the timings have only gradually increased with the clock speed, because history has proven this to be difficult.
EDITORS NOTE: Benchmark Reviews has also published the article DDR3 RAM: System Memory Technology Explained
About the company: Super Talent, Inc.
Super Talent Technology, headquartered in San Jose, California, designs and manufactures a full range of DDR, DDR2, and DDR3 memory modules and Flash based storage devices for computers and consumer electronics. An ISO 9001 certified company, Super Talent utilizes its state-of-the art factory and leading-edge components to produce award winning products with outstanding reliability. Super Talent is an active member of JEDEC and ONFI standards bodies, and holds over 160 patents in Flash and DRAM technology.
Super Talent's Silicon Valley based electrical, mechanical, and software Engineering teams develop leading-edge DRAM and Flash memory solutions for a multitude of applications. Our US-based engineering enables Super Talent to bring advanced new products and technologies to market well ahead of the competition. A leading innovator, Super Talent holds over 160 patents on DRAM and Flash module design and manufacturing processes, making Super Talent one of the world's chief patent holders in memory device categories. Super Talent is an active member of JEDEC, the association that defines future memory standards. The company is a technical leader in producing industry standard memory modules as well as in developing custom memory solutions.
The W1800UX2GP is an extreme performance 2GB DDR3-1800 memory kit based on advanced Project X technology. This kit supports 1800MHz+ clock speeds, aggressively tuned latencies and XMP to deliver
ultimate performance. It is ideal for gamers, power users and overclockers, and is perfectly suited for motherboards based on the Intel P35 chipset.
This kit has been tested and is guaranteed to operate at 1800MHz at very aggressive 7-7-7-21 latencies at 2.0 volts. It has been tested as a matched pair of modules in a dual channel motherboard to ensure
ultimate reliability, compatibility and performance.
Project X employs an extreme cooling solution that offers double the surface area and 106% more aluminum mass than standard heat spreaders. With Super Talent's special thermal adhesive, this cooling solution provides superior heat dissipation that results in a cooler, faster memory device.
Super Talent PC3-14400 Features
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Non-ECC, Unbuffered
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2GB kit (2x 128Mx64)
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Supports XMP - Extreme Memory Profiles
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Single rank
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SPD*: DDR3-1066, 7-7-7-18 latencies
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Project X extreme heatsinks to improve module stability
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100% Tested and Verified
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Super Talent Lifetime Warranty
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RoHS Compliant
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Tested and compatible with Intel P35 and X38 chipsets
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Made in USA
W1800UX2GP Specifications
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DDR3-1800
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Chip Architecture: 2x 8 chips, 128Mx8
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2x 240-pin DDR3 DIMMs
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Part Number: W1800UX2GP
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Extreme Performance PC3-14400
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Low Latency CL7-7-7-21 (Although all of our tests were conducted at CL7-7-7-20)
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2.0V Voltage Setting
Closer Look: Super Talent PC3-14400
Super Talent already has some very deep industry roots, so when a product generation is born you can expect that industry pioneers will bring forward their new ideas, too. Even though I should have been prepared, I was actually surprised by the very unique design and appearance of this 1800MHz DDR3 kit. OCZ may have lifted the bar with their Reaper HPC design, but Super Talent's High-Speed DDR3 comes equipped with an aluminum heat spreader that not only has ribbed "blades" running across it just like Patriot offered, it also adds more surface area for cooling with a very extensive angled heatsink step and fin design. The added surface area really allows the W1800UX2GP 1800MHz DDR3 RAM kit to operate at a cool and stable temperature no matter what kind of voltage is applied.
In comparison, the Winchip PC2-9600 kit is probably the closest thing on the market in terms of heatspreader design. Both use a very tall heatspreader, although the Super Talent W1800UX2GP part extends the heatsink fins all the way across the top of the heatspreader; a design I think others should seriously consider to optimize cooling surface and performance potential.
There are certain downsides to a design like this, however. While the Super Talent PC3-14400 DDR3 may run ultra-cool, it also has a larger footprint to deal with. This translates into less compatibility in compact computer builds, such as shallow HTPC systems.
Because the Super Talent W1800UX2GP DDR3 Kit uses a single rank/single side module construction, the opposing side of the PCB does not generate heat, and therefore does not need any additional cooling. Instead, Super Talent has kept it simple and effective with a single attached spreader on the RAM chip side.
During normal operation, I discovered that the Super Talent PC3-14400 RAM kit generated a temperature which was just barely lukewarm to the touch. Likely a result of the efficient 80nm process Micron D9GTR (BY-187E) IC's, or possibly the 2.0V used with this DDR3 kit.
Super Talent really has a winning design and look with their ProjectX concept, and I am happy to see it introduced in a first-class product like 1800MHz High-Speed DDR3. Other DDR3 products seemed to be satisfied with the same tired design that was identical to DDR(1) and DDR2, so it's refreshing to see a manufacturer actually do something to improve the outward appearance of an already inwardly improved DDR3.
In the next section, Benchmark Reviews covers the finer points of DDR3 and the changes it brings. The overall progress of this DDR3 series is also updated, along with overclocking results.
DDR3 Comparison Review Progress
Ultimately DDR3 offers a faster design which allows all hardware enthusiasts to take advantage of it. Current high-speed DDR3 memory doesn't offer any benefit when installed into computers running at the stock JEDEC standard speeds of 400 (800), 533 (1066), 666 (1333), and 800 (1600).
Instead, the new generation of DDR3 is meant to avoid a bottleneck between the CPU and the system memory; especially in highly overclocked scenarios. With the high-speed variety of DDR3, which presently includes everything beyond the highest 1333MHz JEDEC standard, you increase the Front Side Bus (FSB) and CPU clock speed without being forced to slow the system memory to remain stable. It should be noted that as of late October 2007 the JEDEC 1600MHz speed is still in draft in standard JESD79-3A, but once finalized high-speed DDR3 will include parts beyond this new speed.
System Memory is labeled with a new generation for each interval of Front Side Bus development. In terms of DDR, or double data rate memory, the first generation was designed for 100 MHz to 200 MHz speeds (DDR-200 to DDR-400). Later, DDR2 arrived and started production at 266 MHz (DDR2-533) and officially ended (by JEDEC standards) at 400 MHz (DDR2-800). This is where DDR3 begins, starting with 533 MHz (DDR-1066), and scale up to 800 MHz (DDR3-1600).
Each generation of DDR is more than just an update to the memory speed, it is also a more technologically advanced production process and a lower operating voltage and better heat dissipation. The previous generation of DDR2 is manufactured on a 110nm node, whereas the new DDR3 has receives a fab process shrink down to a 90nm node (although some use 80nm) with either 55/45nm prepared for later into 2008. Together, this all helps the hardware enthusiast reach higher clock speeds at the expense of higher latencies. This is why the new DDR3 generation of memory needs a significantly higher clock speed deliver better performance than the preceding generation of DDR2 technology.
In additional to the logically progressive changes, there are also improvements made to the architectural design of the memory. One particularly important change introduced with DDR3 is in the prefetch buffer: up from DDR2's four bits to an astounding eight bits per cycle. This translates to a full 100% increase in the prefetch payload; not just a small incremental improvement as there have been in the other area's.
DDR2-400 Memory is equal in performance to DDR-400, which is why it must operate at DDR2-667 speed to carry incentive. The same scenario is true with DDR3 when compared to DDR2. While in theory DDR2-1066 offers the same performance as DDR3-1066, this generally means that DDR3 requires a DDR3-1333 speed to show any benefit over DDR2-800. Memories within the same generation (DDR/DDR2/DDR3) are downwards compatible, meaning that if you have DDR3-1600 RAM, you can configure it to operate at 1066 and 1333 MHz speeds.
Unfortunately, without the proper chipset to support high-speed DDR3 memory, anything beyond DDR3-1333 (the fastest selectable memory multiplier setting with most motherboards) will be relegated to overclocking. Intel has designed the entire 3 Series of motherboards to be DDR3 compatible; but even though the G33, P35, X38, and the upcoming X48 chipsets all support the newer standard they are still encouraging DDR2 support. This is going to be a power struggle between standards until Intel launches yet another new Front Side Bus.
But aren't we forgetting someone? Oh, that's right, Advanced Micro Devices. These days it's almost as if AMD has been late to dinner so often they don't even get a table setting anymore. While little brother (AMD) may have made claims back in 2006 to support DDR3 in their products this year, they appear to eating their words as the move has been stalled until the last half of 2008 when they will likely introduce the 45nm AM3. Which is what brings about the purpose of this article... is it all worth it?
DDR3 Test Products:
One of the nice benefits of owning a computer sales and service company is that I get to have my hands on a whole lot of inventory that I would never purchase for myself. The other benefit is that I get to make contact with many of the top names in the industry, and can often persuade them to lend us product for testing. Over the next several weeks, you can expect to see top-tier names like: Aenenon, Corsair, Crucial, GeIL, Kingston, SimpleTech, Mushkin, OCZ, Patriot, Winchip, and Super Talent in our featured DDR3 reviews for this mega-comparison round-up. The list below is just the beginning...
Benchmark Reviews DDR3 Testing Group
This review focuses on the Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 W1800UX2GP DDR3 1800MHz 2x1GB RAM kit, but as soon as the individual series of reviews have been completed I will address the collective conclusions in a single finale article. The comparison results displayed below are updated in real time as they are completed.
Benchmark Reviews DDR3 Series Natural Overclock Results - Stock Voltage and Latency
Test System
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Motherboard: ASUS P5K3 Deluxe (Intel P35 chipset) with 0704 (10/18/2007) BIOS
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Processor: Intel E6550 Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz with 1333MHz Front Side Bus
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Hard Disk 1: Western Digital WD360GD 10,000 RPM SATA
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Optical Drive: Toshiba Samsung SH-S203 SATA 20x DVD R/W
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Operating System: Windows XP Professional SP-2 (optimized to 16 processes at idle)
Testing Methodology: DDR3 RAM
Before the testing really begins, there are several settings to be adjusted in the BIOS. Many combinations of the CPU's front side bus are matched to a specific memory multiplier, giving us the desired RAM (and CPU) operating speed. When high-speed DDR3 is tested, a 1:1 memory multiplier is combined with the highest CPU front side bus speed available to obtain baseline readings; the fastest FSB is presently 1333MHz found in select Intel Conroe and Kentsfield series desktop processors. When I first begin this process and start benchmarking for a baseline, the memory voltage and timing are always left at the manufacturer's default values.
After each and every change to the BIOS, the system is restarted and all RAM modules are automatically tested with MemTest86+ for one full pass. Since the modules are not yet overclocked, one pass is usually sufficient to determine if a bad part exists. Later, once I begin to overclock the memory, these tests are a good way of quickly pre-screening stable configurations. Once the test pass is complete, I move onto the synthetic benchmark tests. Here at Benchmark Reviews we use the following test suites and applications:
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SiSoft Sandra Lite v2008.1.12.34
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Lavalys EVEREST v4.00.976
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Passmark Performance Test v6.01.1001
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RightMark Memory Analyzer v3.72
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World in Conflict v1.0.0.2 (Build 82)
After all of the tests have been performed at the default memory clock speed (or highest JEDEC standard), which establishes the baseline reading for our comparisons, I then increase the front side bus to overclock the RAM without adding any additional voltage. My theory is this: a module that overclocks without additional voltage is going to perform better than a module which requires you to potentially damage it or void the warranty. Another way of looking at this is that if a module overclocks well without added voltage, it is likely that there will be more headroom if additional voltage is applied.
I am fully aware that many sites turn up the voltage and apply dangerous amounts of power to the modules so that they can unlock that last megahertz; but if I begin down that road where will it end? Do I then start writing reviews where I apply liquid nitrogen cooling to the RAM? Do I volt-mod the motherboard and apply so much power I ruin expensive parts and equipment? In the end, I decided that overclocking will be done at the stock voltage for benchmarks, because I believe most enthusiasts are going to aim for the same goal. If on some rare occasion I determine that adding voltage would potentially return large performance gains, then I will add up to 0.2V to the default volt rating.
In each synthetic benchmark test Windows XP was booted fresh and the application was opened. Task manager was then utilized to end the explorer.exe (Windows) process so that only the most essential services were running and a trim 16 processes total were consuming system memory. This procedure allowed the RAM to be as isolated as possible for our testing. Once the system was ready, I performed a single test-run of the benchmark, followed by three recorded tests. At the end of the series, I averaged the three results for the final score.
Sometimes it is very difficult to get broad results between the memory modules tested, so we use several different speeds of memory from participating manufacturers. Benchmark Reviews is very serious about performance, which is why we test the products against as many benchmarks as reasonably possible. Not every test suite is effective in these reviews, and some often calculate processor and other system components into the score. This is what makes a RAM review difficult: unless all of the modules compared have the exact same rating and the CPU operates at the exact same speed for each and every test, the comparison is always going to be subjective.
Test Results: W1800UX2GP
Testing RAM is a subject which requires a bit of technical knowledge. I have recently found a few other sites using nothing except video games to benchmark the RAM product they are reviewing, and this whole practice made no sense at all to me. Video games are GPU and CPU dependant, and RAM has a very small impact on frame-rate performance as I will prove to you in my own tests. So keeping all of this in mind, I use the tools that belong in a system memory review; I use system memory tests for my benchmarks. Additionally, I don't spend three (usually tiny) pages discussing how I overclocked or how I made it to tighter timings. Every memory module comes with its own limit, so one size doesn't fit all.
As it turned out, the Super Talent W1800UX2GP 1800MHz DDR3 kit could overclock to 1852MHz without adding additional voltage; and the default clock latency values of 7-7-7-21 were improved to 7-7-7-20 with no problem. With not much overclocking headroom, this kind of memory overclock doesn't amount to very much in the big scheme of things. It's also a good idea to keep in mind the default memory voltage for this kit is already +0.5V over spec at 2.0V; which means that there isn't a whole lot of room for safe voltage increases, either.
Our first results were recorded from Lavalys EVEREST using the Cache and Memory Benchmark tool. The results shown below represent the average measurement obtained from the Super Talent PC3-14400 High-Speed DDR3 1800MHz kit at the 1:1 RAM to CPU multiplier of 1333MHz and the front side bus overclocked to 450MHz to produce 1800MHz. After testing the default speed, I then test at the 1333 baseline and the overclocked speed of 1852MHz. The results for the average read, write, and copy bandwidth from EVEREST are displayed below.
Everest is among my most trusted benchmark programs, and the Cache and Benchmark tool is one of the more reliable in terms of consistent results. The chart above shows that the extra 52MHz over the stock 1800MHz baseline amounts to a small increase in added bandwidth; but the real improvement is over the 1333MHz baseline where the the read bandwidth improved by nearly 23%.
With both CPU-Z and EVEREST reporting memory clocks at 7-7-7-20, I will believe that the ASUS P5K3 BIOS settings were configured correctly. While Super Talent actually rates this High-Speed PW1800UX2GP kit for 7-7-7-21, I adjusted the latency to 7-7-7-20 to match it with the other 1800MHz sets on hand. Reducing the latency timing by such a small margin has no effect on stability at all, making me ask the question "why didn't Super Talent market this product with the 7-7-7-20 timing to match the competition?"
Next up was the PassMark Performance Test benchmark which runs several different system memory tests in a row. Although some of the tests are specific to the performance of the RAM, others take the CPU clock speed and front side bus into account when developing a score. Most important are the memory read and write tests, and the score based tests are biased towards CPU speed and other hardware factors.
Passmark's Performance Test offers the most consistent memory test results of the entire group, with each of the test runs resulting in a score nearly identical to the previous test run. Ideally, all of these programs should be this consistent, but until they are I would consider Performance Test to be the best tool available for testing system memory bandwidth.
SiSoftware Sandra Lite XIIc offered identical results nearly the same in regards to increased performance; according to the chart above. Although the bandwidth tests are of a different nature, the improvement of 1880MHz over 1333MHz still resulted in nearly 22% in both the integer bandwidth and float buffered tests.
The last of our memory testing applications to run is RightMark Memory Analyzer. This program may not offer the same level of consistent test results that Performance Test does, but instead it offers a more technical approach to testing the system memory. Plus, this is a Benchmark Reviews favorite - because it's free.
RightMark Memory Analyzer offer nearly the same tests that EVEREST and Performance Test have, and could be considered a bit redundant, but then again this is a technology article and us geeks like our redundancy. While it's true that Memory Analyzer hasn't been updated in over a year and seems out of development, it's still not a bad tool since it gives the second most consistent results every single run (unlike Sandra). It also offers an average "real" RAM read and write bandwidth result which most enthusiasts don't appreciate because it combines the results of dozens of tests. This is the layman's alternative to the Sciencemark v2.0 test suite, which is also gone but not forgotten.
Finally, I tested with the memory multiplier set at 1:1 for 1333MHz against the overclocked 1852MHz setting in the game World in Conflict. Realizing that games can be either CPU or GPU bound, this made it difficult for me to compare all of the memory sets since the clock speed of the processor would change as I adjusted the front side bus for the desired RAM speed. In the end a 519MHz system memory improvement gave the frame-rate in World in Conflict only 2 FPS more in both the average and maximum frame rates. This mediocre improvement is evidence of how insignificant the system memory speed is in relation to video game performance.
But don't misunderstand me, because system memory could have a much larger impact on game performance if you use it to overclock the processor. Obviously, if you are using Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 High-Speed 1800MHz DDR3, you aren't going to keep the CPU at the stock speed anyway; and you probably use a video card that more than makes up for the very small gains of overclocked system memory. This means that faster RAM allows for a faster CPU, and in turn produces a faster frame-rate. But in the world of system memory benchmarks, comparing the different sets of RAM in a game is pointless.
Final Thoughts
I am going to begin this section by stating that the Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 High-Speed DDR3 1800MHz 2x1GB RAM kit W1800UX2GP is not going to be something system builders and casual users should purchase for vanilla systems. Make just one visit to the Super Talent website and you discover that they aren't trying to capture a rather mundane market segment, they are after the cutting-edge group of hardcore gamers and serious hardware enthusiasts. The Super Talent PC3-14400 W1800UX2GP kit however is strictly for the overclocker, enthusiast, and anyone else who wants to modify settings. I say this because of one simple fact: you cannot presently go beyond 1333MHz without changing something in your BIOS (at least not until the Intel P45/X48 chipset is released).
So do you overclock? That question is really the only one that matters when it comes to Super Talent's High-Speed 1800MHz DDR3. There's just no way around it: if you want High-Speed DDR3 operating at the advertised 1800MHz, then overclocking your system is exactly what the W1800UX2GP 2GB RAM kit demands. For what you get, which is 1852MHz worth of CL7-7-7-20 stable bandwidth, this is the perfect part for those looking to take their CPU way beyond the normal range of operation. So long as your motherboard and processor can support the overclock, Super Talent's PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 W1800UX2GP High-Speed DDR3 1800MHz kit is going to open up front side bus speeds you never imagined possible.
I think that most enthusiasts will probably presume that High-Speed DDR3 isn't really an important part of the hardware market. After all, it's expensive; and Super Talent's PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 W1800UX2GP High-Speed DDR3 1800MHz kit isn't going to be a plug and play improvement to system performance. High-Speed DDR3 may not be market-critical, but remember that this high-speed DDR3 is intended for overclockers and enthusiasts almost exclusively. Presently the demand for High-Speed DDR3 is relegated to those enthusiasts who push their equipment well past the stock settings and are willing to pay extra for the privilege.
Super Talent W1800UX2GP Conclusion
New to our ratings system is the performance score. In our system memory reviews, we offer this score to represent the overclocking potential and memory timing capability of the product reviewed. Super Talent managed to overclock to 1852MHz with the W1800UX2GP kit while still maintaining a stable CL7-7-7-20 timing, and this is actually a notable achievement with 1800MHz DDR3. While the overclocking headroom was mostly attributed to the use of Micron D9GTR (BY-187E) IC's matched to a default voltage 2.0V, the end result of an extra 1852MHz is more than enough for most enthusiasts.
Moving on to the appearance rating, I doubt that there was much room for improvement over the improved ProjectX design. In all honesty, I think Super Talent has got it right on every level of their design. Certainly a polished mirror-finish would make it look better, it would also detract from the cooling performance that a flat black finish offers. Adding a chrome finish would only help the module retain head, so in reality this module looks as good as it possibly can while still being ultra-functional.
Regarding the construction, the W1800UX2GP kit will not offer the same durability as other kits. The solid bond made to the RAM modules will give this memory rugged durability, but with sharp edges you can still bend something if you're not careful. This kit could survive harsh abuse, but I still recommend you handle with care.
At this particular point in the industry, the Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 High-Speed 1800MHz DDR3 kit is the third-fastest available. High-Speed DDR3 is going to grow more popular with time, but for early adopters who don't want to wait another year this means that the 1800MHz guaranteed to perform at CL7-7-7-21 in the W1800UX2GP kit will give them the chance to dramatically overclock their system... and do so right now.
Standard rate DDR3 pricing is nearly in-line with near-speed DDR2, but the Super Talent PC3-14400 High-Speed DDR3 kit offers a lot more bandwidth than DDR2 ever could. Since this product has just launched, pricing is still high and availability is slim. At the time of this writing, the Super Talent W1800UX2GP kit was found for $574 at select online merchants.
In conclusion, the Super Talent PC3-14400 CL7-7-7-21 W1800UX2GP High-Speed DDR3 1800MHz 2x1GB RAM kit offers great performance and opens plenty of front side bus opportunities never before seen, but until overclockers grow in number these modules won't be in high demand by the masses. They are critical for pushing the rest of your system well beyond the manufacturer's intended specifications, but at the current market price it may be a while longer before most enthusiasts can afford these modules.
Pros:
+ Offers extremely high CPU overclocking potential
+ 1800MHz of available bandwidth
+ Memory overclocks to 1852MHz
+ Conservative CL7-7-7-21 memory timings
+ Uses Micron D9GTR (BY-187E) IC's
+ Supports XMP - Extreme Memory Profiles
+ Lifetime Product Warranty
Cons:
- Very expensive niche product
- Only 52MHz of memory overclocking headroom
- Tall profile means incompatible fit on low profile systems
Ratings:
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Performance: 8.75
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Appearance: 9.50
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Construction: 9.75
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Functionality: 9.75
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Value: 5.50
Final Score: 8.75 out of 10.
Quality Recognition: Benchmark Reviews Silver Tachometer Award.
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EDITORS NOTE: Benchmark Reviews has also published the article DDR3 RAM: System Memory Technology Explained
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