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Written by Hank Tolman   
Monday, 11 July 2011

ASUS F1A75-M Pro Motherboard Review

Manufacturer: ASUSTek
Product Name: F1A75-M Pro Motherboard
Price as Tested: $120 at Newegg

Full Disclosure: The product sample used in this article has been provided by ASUS.

With the launch of every new motherboard platform, we expect to see a number of different designs from the major motherboard manufacturers. ASU, of course, was ready for the AMD Lynx platform launch with their own set of A55 and A75 socket FM1 motherboards. Here at Benchmark Reviews we used the ASUS F1A75-M Pro motherboard to test the new platform and the all new AMD desktop APU, the A8-3850. In this article, Benchmark Reviews is exploring the motherboard itself, bringing you all the details of the ASUS F1A75-M Pro socket FM1 motherboard.

The socket FM1 represents a new direction for AMD. Their generational line of motherboards and CPUs will continue with the 990FX platform and bulldozer CPUs that will extend from current 6-core offerings up to 8-core CPUs. But the shining achievement of AMD's last five years of work since they acquired ATI is the Accelerated Processing Unit paired with the A55 and A75 platforms known as Lynx, Llano for desktops. The APU, much like Intel's Sandy Bridge, combines the power of the CPU, GPU, and Northbridge all onto a single die. With the power of the ATI Radeon graphics at its command, however, AMD has the ability to bring a much higher level of graphics to the mix. The AMD A8-3850 APU that we reviewed earlier comes paired with the Radeon HD 6650D GPU which provides a lot more video power than the competing Intel HD Graphics and even supports DirectX 11.

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That's all great news, but the A8-3850 APU is useless without a good motherboard to put it in. All the normal partners were there for the launch of the A55 and A75 chipsets. We got our hands on the F1A75-M Pro from ASUS, who traditionally puts a lot of extra features and designs into their motherboards. ASUS has included a lot of the designs from their recent motherboard implementations into the F1A75-M Pro motherboard, including their Dual Intelligent Processors II and their uEFI that has replaced the BIOS. One of the best parts of the new uEFI is the ability to capture screenshots. We have some pictures of the new uEFI for you here. Other features of the F1A75-M Pro include the digitally controlled DIGI+ VRM and plenty of SATA 6Gb/s and USB 3.0 ports.

When Intel launched the Sandy Bridge, they began with two platforms. The H67-Express platform included a few less features and provided the use of the on-die graphics. The P67-Express platform gave limited ability to overclock and catered more towards gamers or enthusiasts. With the launch of the Fusion platforms for desktop, AMD has done something similar, yet completely different at the same time. The two platforms released by AMD are the A55 and the A75. The difference between the Fusion launch and the Sandy Bridge launch is that AMD's two platforms are almost exactly the same. There are a few difference, which we will explore later in this article, but it does seem a little odd to me that the two are so similar.

So, without further ado, let's delve into a more comprehensive look at the new platform and ASUS' F1A75-M Pro socket FM1 Fusion motherboard.

ASUS F1A75-M PRO Detailed Features

First off, let's take a look at the new socket on the F1A75-M Pro. All of the new A55 and A75 motherboards will sport the FM1 socket. The FM1 is a 905-pin socket, a little smaller than previous generation processors and also smaller than the bulldozer processors will be. Because of the different socket size, the older AM3 processors obviously won't fit the FM1 motherboards. They will fit in the 990FX chipset, however. Still, the FM1 socket uses the same size heatsinks as the AM2, AM2+, AM3, and AM3+ sockets. That's outstanding, especially for aftermarket heatsink manufacturers who won't have to change a thing to accommodate the new socket.

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Speaking of the APU socket, the power to it is provided by an 8-pin power input, giving you roughly twice the power of the standard 4-pin. The currently released APUs don't draw a whole lot of power, so the 8-pin power input seems a little overkill. That being said, the 990FX motherboard I reviewed had the 8-pin CPU power connector and ASUS said it was specifically included to allow for the heightened power requirements of the upcoming 8-core processors. It makes me wonder if this is foretelling on the F1A75-M Pro for plans of future APUs.

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The power to the F1A75-M Pro is controlled by ASUS' digital 4+2 phase Power Design and their DIGI+ VRM. The DIGI+ VRM uses another ASUS innovation, the DIP2 (Dual-Intelligent Processors). The two processors are a TPU (TurboV Processing Unit) and an EPU (Energy Processing Unit) and focus on performance and power management. The TPU takes some stress off the CPU to increase performance and the EPU decreases power drain from system components. The DIP2 can be controlled using the ASUS AI Suite II that comes with the F1A75-M Pro motherboard or through the uEFI. The TPU and the EPU are equipped with switches on the F1A75-M Pro motherboard which are located near the MemOK! Switch.

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The DIGI+ VRM consists of a programmable micro-processor that can match multiple PWM signals without power loss. This is an excellent feature for extra power management (something concerning just about everyone these days) because it makes the F1A75-M Pro motherboard more energy efficient by reducing dissipation through the use of digital power regulation. In addition, being digitally controlled, it doesn't cause excess heat to be created by the components. Within the uEFI, the DIGI+ VRM on the F1A75-M Pro allows you to control the power management to choose an auto Spread Spectrum mode that varies the VRM frequency dynamically, reduces interference, and increases system stability.

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You can also choose Fixed Frequency Mode that lets you pull more juice into overclocking by increasing the frequency in 10k Hz increments up towards 500k Hz. This is really outstanding in terms of overclocking, overvolting, and even under-volting. Rather than setting your voltage to 1.50V and getting only 1.45V of power, the digital controller offers the exact amount of power you designate. ASUS even includes a program called ASUS Probe II within the AI Suite II that increases your options as to setting power limits.

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ASUS relies on a lot of third-party controllers, and a few of their own, to get the job done. For the 8-Channel Audio on the F1A75-M Pro, ASUS utilized the Realtek ALC892 Audio Controller. For the Gigabit Lan (GbE) they also went with Realtek and the RTL8111E. Hardware monitoring functionality is provided by the iTE IT8728F.

AMD A-Series A75 Fusion Chipset

Before we begin our look at the ASUS F1A75-M Pro motherboard, let's look at the A75 Fusion Controller Hub that powers the F1A75-M Pro.

The A75 FCH is one of a pair that was launched with the Fusion for desktop release. The A55 FCH is the other. Both platforms support the new socket FM1 APUs and have almost all of the same features. With the Sandy Bridge release, we found ourselves with two very distinct platforms, one supporting the on-die graphics, the other allowing for limited overclocking. With the Fusion launch, the A55 FCH just seems like an antiquated and outdated version of the A75 FCH. I have to be honest, I'm not really sure what the purpose of the A55 FCH is, except that it is used in a lot of notebooks. The A75 motherboards can be found from near $100, so they are at a good price point, and the few differences between the two ensure longevity and expandability.

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The reason I call it antiquated is because of the features differentiating the A75 FCH and the A55 FCH. There are really only three. The first, and most shocking, difference is the lack of native SATA 6Gb/s functionality on the A55 FCH. The reason this is shocking is that SATA 6Gb/s has been a standard since the 890 Chipset and has even been an add-in due to third-party controllers since before that. I'm not really sure why AMD would leave it off of any of their newer chipsets. Granted, the need for SATA 6Gb/s ports is still low, as is the availability of devices that take advantage of the higher transfer rates. But things don't stay the way they are for long in the computer hardware industry and limiting yourself to SATA 3Gb/s is a good way to ensure yourself slower speeds in the near future. Undoubtedly, many of the motherboard manufacturers will include SATA 6Gb/s capabilities through the use of a third-party controller. Or maybe they won't. That would cost them more money, and with the price of the A75 motherboards already pretty low, why bother?

The second difference is in the USB ports. Both the A55 and the A75 FCH offer two USB 1.1 ports, very outdated but still useful. They also offer a wide array of USB 2.0 ports. The A75 chipset offers up to ten USB 2.0 ports while the A55 offers up to fourteen. Those four extra that are included with the A55 FCH is made up by the four native SuperSpeed USB 3.0 ports that are available on the A75 chipset. The A55 offers no native USB 3.0 compatibility. This isn't quite as shocking, considering none of the Sandy Bridge motherboards offer native USB 3.0 capabilities. All that means, really, is that a third-party controller has to be used. But again, with the price of the A75 motherboards, what is the point?

The final difference between the A55 and A75 chipsets is also related to the SATA ports. The SATA ports on the A75 FCH can utilize FIS Based Switching, while those on the A55 FCH cannot. This difference is the least concerning because it probably won't affect most users. FIS switching basically splits the bandwidth of a single SATA port so that you can utilize more than drive on a single port. Remember the IDE/PATA days where we hooked up multiple devices on a single port? This is similar. Hooking up two devices onto a single SATA 6Gb/s port would effectively split its bandwidth, giving you, essentially, two SATA 3Gb/s ports. That's not exactly true, because FIS based switching chooses how to allocate the available bandwidth. It's more like an external USB hub that you power off a single USB port from your computer.

I suppose what they technically means is that you could have up to a total of 12 SATA 3Gb/s lanes on the A75 FCH. I am a little unclear on exactly how many times the FIS Based Switching could potentially split the available bandwidth from a single SATA 6Gb/s port, but the potential for a lot of devices is there. I'm not sure how many users interested in the A75 chipset would need more than 6 SATA devices in the first place, but it does speak to the possibility of a very large home server of sorts.

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Everything else about the chipsets is identical. The APU itself controls, of course, the GPU and the Memory Controller in addition to the CPU. The DDR3 RAM supported by the socket FM1 APUs includes speeds up to 1866MHz not overclocked. This is certainly more compatibility than the Sandy Bridge CPUs, which only support up to 1333MHz DDR3 RAM. The APU also houses support for a single PCIe x16 lane and four PCIe x1 lanes. Naturally, the APU controls the capabilities of the GPU, which include the legacy VGA in addition to HDMI and DVI. The APU is linked to the FCH through a Unified Media Interface with a bandwidth of 2GB/s.

The FCH (both the A55 and the A75) offers a few more additives, similar to what you find in a Southbridge, were this a legacy motherboard. The FCH controls another four PCIe x1 lanes, the 16 total USB ports (in their varying capacities), the SATA ports, the Audio controller, and the PCI port. A couple of interesting add-ins include an SD controller, an IR controller, and a controller for the APU Fan.

ASUS Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (uEFI)

As with most of their recent motherboards, ASUS has integrated their uEFI instead of a BIOS. I am a big fan of this and I hope most other manufacturers will make the move if they haven't already.

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When you enter the ASUS uEFI (by pressing DEL at the boot screen), you are greeted with the EZ Mode screen. Here you get a snapshot of your system. The date and time are present up at the top along with some system information like the model of your motherboard, the uEFI version and build date, the CPU model and speed, and the amount and speed of your system memory. You also have the option to change the language, but I prefer English. Some core measurements are given a little lower on the screen. These include CPU and Motherboard temps, CPU and rail voltages, and fan speeds. Just below that you get the option of tweaking your system performance slightly by just choosing one of the three options. The first option is for better energy savings, the middle option is normal, and the last option is for better performance. The performance settings increase the base clock to 103 from 100, giving you a very slight overclock. The last thing you can do on the EZ Mode screen is change the boot order of your attached devices. To get more options, click on the Exit/Advanced Mode icon and enter advanced mode.

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The Main screen in Advanced Mode basically just shows the same information that was located at the top of the screen in EZ Mode. The option to change the language is there, as is the option to add a system and administrative password to your computer.

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The next screen is the AI Tweaker screen. Here you can manually adjust almost all of your system settings. You can also allow the uEFI to overclock automatically for you. The APU frequency is the base clock, and this is the setting you will use to do any overclocking of the system. While you can adjust the APU multiplier here too, this won't actually do anything to your system, because the multiplier is locked. One thing I found useful here is the memory frequency button. It allows you to choose between the different speeds that your RAM supports, and automatically overclocks the settings you chose based on the APU frequency. After choosing the RAM speed, you can go in and tweak the DRAM Timings to fit your needs. You can also adjust voltages on this screen, though I recommend letting the uEFI do that automatically, even when overclocking.

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The Advanced screen gives you access to configure the settings of a lot of your peripherals. You can configure the CPU, including C6 states and PowerNow functionality, as well as your SATA ports, USB ports, and your integrated devices, like the GPU. The SATA ports can be set here to AHCI and you get set your primary video device to something other than the APU if you so desire. Within the onboard devices configuration, you can activate the Asmedia USB 3.0 Battery Charging Support, which gives the enhanced battery charging function ASUS touts.

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The Monitor screen goes a little bit further than the EZ Mode screen when showing the system vitals. This screen gives a comprehensive look at the CPU and Motherboard temperatures, fan speeds, and voltages just like the EZ Mode screen, but it also allows you to enable the Q-Fan controls if your CPU or Chassis fan has that fourth pin. With that, you can use the uEFI or AI Suite to control the fan speed and, in so doing, control the noise level.

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The next screen is the Boot screen. Here you have the age old option to turn on NumLock when your computer starts up and other options such as what you see when the system is booting up. You can also switch the uEFI here to start up in Advanced Mode automatically. You have three boot options to choose from, so pick your boot priorities wisely.

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The final screen on the uEFI is the Tool screen. This screen allows you to flash the uEFI (this already came in handy, as we received a uEFI update halfway through testing) and set your personal O.C. profiles. You can use those profiles later to auto-load an overclock that you have previously tested and found worthy for your game or program. ASUS SPD information can also be found on this screen.

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Overall, I have found the uEFI to be far superior the the BIOS. Just the mouse support and screen capture capability would have been enough, but ASUS goes further and integrates a lot of customizability here that is made easy by using the click of a mouse button rather than typing in all the amounts by hand. I think this is the definitely the way of the future for desktop PCs and I am sure any manufacturers that haven't will be jumping on board shortly.

ASUS F1A75-M PRO Specifications

F1A75-M PRO

Note: The specifications are subject to change without notice.

APU

AMD® A-& E2- series Accelerated Processor with AMD RadeonTM HD 6000 Series Graphics,Up to 4 CPU cores,FM1 Package

AMD Turbo Core Technology 2.0 Supports*

DirectX® 11 Supports

*The AMD®Turbo Core Technology 2.0 Support depends on the APU types

Chipset

AMD® A75 FCH

Memory

4xDDR3 DIMM, max. 64GB, DDR3 1866/1600/1333/1066MHz, Non ECC un-buffered memory Dual Channel memory architecture

*Due to OS limitation, when installing total memory of 4GB capacity or more, Windows® 32-bit operation system may only recognize less than 3GB. Hence, a total installed memory of less than 3GB is recommended.

** The Max. 64GB memory capacity can be supported with DIMMs of 16GB (or above). ASUS will update QVL once the DIMMs are available on the market.

*** Refer to www.asus.com or user manual for Memory QVL (Qualify Vendor List)

Graphics

Integrated AMD RadeonTM HD 6000 Series Graphics in the LIano APU

-HDMI and D-Sub

-DVI and D-Sub

Supports HDMI with max. resolution 1920X1080@60Hz

Supports DVI with max. resolution 1920*1200@60 HZ

Supports D-Sub with max. resolution 1920 X 1600@60 HZ

Supports Microsoft® DirectX 11

Supports Dual Graphics

**Refer to www.amd.com for the discrete GPUs which support Dual Graphics.

Expansion Slots

2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots with ATI® CrossFireXTM support (blue @ x16 mode, black @ x4 mode)

1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots

1x PCI slots

Storage

AMD® A75 FCH:

-6x Serial ATA 6Gb/s connectors(gray) with RAID 0, RAID 1,RAID 10 and JBOD support

* These SATA ports are for data hard drives only. ATAPI devices are not supported.

LAN

Realtek® 8111E Gigabit LAN controller

Audio

ALC892 8-Chanhnel High Definition AUDIO CODEC Supports

- Optical S/PDIF out port at back I/O

-Supports Jack-Detection, Multi-Streaming, and Front Panel Jack-Retasking

USB

AMD®A75 FCH:

-4 xUSB3.0 ports (2 ports at back panel,2 ports at front panel)

-10 xUSB2.0 ports(2 ports at back panel,8 ports at front panel)

Asmedia® PCIe USB3.0 controller:

-2 x USB 3.0 ports at back panel

ASUS Unique Features

ASUS Dual Intelligent Processors II- TPU & EPU

- Auto Tuning, TurboV, EPU and TPU switch

ASUS Digital Power Design

- Industry leading Digital 4+2 Phase Power Design

ASUS Exclusive Features

- MemOK!

- AI Suite II

- AI Charger

- Anti-Surge

- ASUS UEFI BIOS EZ Mode featuring friendly graphics user interface

ASUS Quiet Thermal Solution

- ASUS Fanless Design: Stylish Heat-sink solution

- ASUS Fan Xpert

ASUS EZ DIY

- ASUS Q-Shield

- ASUS O.C. Profile

- ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3

- ASUS EZ Flash 2

- ASUS MyLogo 2

- Multi-language BIOS

Special Features

100% All High-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors

ASUS Exclusive Overclocking Features

Intelligent overclocking tools:

- TPU Switch

- Auto Tuning

Precision Tweaker 2:

- vCore: Adjustable APU voltage at 0.00625V increment

- vDRAM Bus:65-step Memory voltage control,adjustable DRAM voltage at 0.01V increment

- vFCH: 41-step Chipset voltage control, adjustable DRAM voltage at 0.01V increment

SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection)

- PCIe frequency tuning from 100MHz up to 200MHz at 1MHz increment

Overclocking Protection:

- ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)

Back Panel I/O Ports

1 x PS/2 Keyboard/Mouse Combo port

1 x HDMI Output port

1 x DVI-D Output port

1 x D-Sub Output port

1 x Optical S/PDIF Output port

1 x LAN (RJ45) port

2 x USB 2.0 ports

4 x USB 3.0 ports(blue)

8 channel Audio 6 Jacks

Internal I/O Connectors

1 x USB connector support additional 2 USB 3.0 ports

4x USB connectors support additional 8 USB 2.0 ports

1 x S/PDIF Out connector

1 x High Definition front panel audio connector

6 x SATA 6G connectors

1 x COM connector

1 x System Panel connector

1 x CPU Fan connector

2 x chassis Fan connectors

1 x Power Fan connector

24-pin EATX power connector

8-pin ATX 12V Power connector

BIOS

32 Mb Flash ROM, AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI v2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS V2.6, ACPI V2.0a

Accessories

2 x Serial ATA 6Gb/s cables

1 x Q-Shield

User's manual

Support DVD

Drivers

ASUS PC Probe II

ASUS Update

Anti-virus software (OEM version)

Form factor

uATX Form Factor,9.6"x 9.6" (24.4cm x 24.4cm)

Testing and Results

Before I begin any benchmarking or overclocking, I thoroughly stress the CPU and memory by running Prime95 on all available cores, normally for 12 hours. In this review I stressed them for 6 hours. If no errors are found, I move on to a gaming stress test. To do this, I use Prime95 again to stress the processor, while running an instance of FurMark's stability test on top of this. If the computer survives this test for 2 hours without lockup or corruption, I consider it to be stable and ready for overclocking. After achieving what I feel is stable overclock, I run to these tests again for certainty. The goal of this stress testing is to ensure the clock speeds and settings are stable before performing any benchmarks. I adopted this method from another writer here at Benchmark Reviews and it seems to do a great job of flushing out what only seem to be stable overclocks.

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Once the hardware is prepared, we begin our testing. Each benchmark test program begins after a system restart, and the very first result for every test will be ignored since it often only caches the test. This process proves extremely important in many gaming benchmarks, as the first run serves to cache maps allowing subsequent tests to perform much better than the first. Each test is completed five times, with the average results displayed in our article.

Since the A8-3850 competes in price with the i3-2100, we will be looking specifically at the comparison between the two. I have also included other processors for comparison. The Phenom-II X4-840 should be of particular note because it is very close in specifications to the A8-3850.

AMD FM1 A-Series Platform

  • Motherboard: ASUS F1A75-M PRO
  • Processor: 2.9GHz AMD A-Series A8-3850 APU ($135 MSRP)
  • CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen II
  • System Memory: 2x2GB Patriot Gamer Series DDR3
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: APU Radeon HD 6650D; ASUS GT430 (Forceware 275.50)

Intel H67 Test Platforms

  • Motherboard: Intel DH67BL with BIOS 1596
  • Processor: 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) Intel Core i5-2500K ($225)
  • CPU Cooler: Scythe Yasya
  • System Memory: 2x2GB Patriot Gamer Series DDR3 (1333MHz@7-7-7-21)
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: MSI NVIDIA GTS450 Cyclone (Forceware 260.99)

Intel P67 Test Platform

  • Motherboard: ASUSSabertooth P67 B3
  • Processor: 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) Intel Core i5-2500K
  • CPU Cooler: Scythe Yasya
  • System Memory: 2x2GB Patriot Gamer Series DDR3
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: MSI Radeon HD 6870 Twin Frozr III (Catalyst Control Center 11.5)

Intel X58 Test Platform

  • Motherboard: MSI X58 Pro LGA1366 Intel X58 ATX
  • Processor: 2.66GHz Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield/Nehalem BX80601920 ($280)
  • CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen II
  • System Memory: Kingston 6GB (3 x 2GB) KVR1333D3K3/6GR DDR3 1333MHz (PC3 10666) (CL7-7-7-20)
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: MSI NVIDIA GTS450 Cyclone (Forceware 260.99)

AMD 890GX Test Platform

  • Motherboard:Biostar TA890GXB-HD (890GX/SB850)
  • Processor: 3.6GHz AMD Phenom-II X4-975BE HDZ980FBK4DGM (MSRP $195)
  • Processor: 3.6GHz AMD Phenom-II X4-975BE HDZ980FBK4DGM (MSRP $175 - Adjusted for 980BE release)
  • Processor: 3.2GHZ AMD Phenom-II X4-840 HDX840WFK42GM (MSRP $105)
  • Processor: 3.3GHz AMD Phenom-II X2-560BE HDZ560WFK2DGM ($110)
  • Processor: 3.1GHz AMD Athlon-II X4-645 ADX645WFGMBOX ($110)
  • Processor: 3.1GHz AMD Athlon-II X3-445 ADX445WFK32GM (~$79)
  • Processor: 3.2GHz AMD Athlon-II X2-260 ADX260OCK23GM ($70)
  • CPU Cooler: Scythe Mugen II
  • System Memory: 2x2GB Patriot Gamer Series DDR3 (1333MHz@7-7-7-21)
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: MSI NVIDIA GTS450 Cyclone (Forceware 260.99)

AMD 990FX Test Platform

  • Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula (990FX/SB950)
  • Processor: 3.7GHz AMD Phenom-II X4-980BE HDZ980FBK4DGM
  • System Memory: 2x2GB Patriot Gamer Series DDR3
  • Primary Drive: Filemate Solid GO 60GB SSD
  • Power Supply Unit: Corsair CMPSU-850TX 850W 80-Plus Certified
  • Graphics Adapter: MSI Radeon HD 6870 Twin Frozr III (Catalyst Control Center 11.5)

Benchmark Applications

  • Operating System: Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit
  • AIDA64 Extreme Edition v1.1
  • PassMark PerformanceTest 7.0b1019
  • Futuremark PCMark Vantage v1.0.2.0 64-Bit
    • TV and Movies
    • Gaming
    • Music
  • SiSoftware Sandra 2010.1.16.92 CPU Test
  • Maxon CINEBENCH R11.5 64-Bit
  • Street Fighter IV benchmark
  • x264Bench HD 3.0
  • Handbrake 0.94 video transcoding

AIDA64 Extreme Edition v1.1 Benchmarks

In November, 2010, FinalWire acquired and discontinued Lavalys EVEREST, updated it, and released it as AIDA64. AIDA64 is an industry leading system diagnostics and benchmarking solution for enthusiasts PC users, based on the award-winning EVEREST Technology. During system optimizations and tweaking it provides essential system and overclock information, advanced hardware monitoring and diagnostics capabilities to check the effects of the applied settings. CPU, FPU and memory benchmarks are available to measure the actual system performance and compare it to previous states or other systems. Furthermore, complete software, operating system and security information makes AIDA64 a comprehensive system diagnostics tool that offers a total of 100 pages of information about your PC.

All of the benchmarks used in our test bed rely on basic x86 instructions and consume very low system memory while also being aware of HyperThreading, multi-processors, and multi-core processors. While the AIDA64 CPU tests really only compare the processor performance more than it measures platforms, it still offers a glimpse into what kind of power each platform possesses.

Queen and Photoworxx tests are synthetic benchmarks that operate the function many times and over-exaggerate by several magnitudes what the real-world performance would be like. The Queen benchmark focuses on the branch prediction capabilities and misprediction penalties of the CPU. It does this by finding possible solutions to the classic queen problem on a chessboard. At the same clock speed theoretically the processor with the shorter pipeline and smaller misprediction penalties will attain higher benchmark scores.

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Like the Queen benchmark, the Photoworxx tests for penalties against pipeline architecture. The synthetic Photoworxx benchmark stresses the integer arithmetic and multiplication execution units of the CPU and also the memory subsystem. Due to the fact that this test performs high memory read/write traffic, it cannot effectively scale in situations where more than two processing threads are used. The AIDA64 Photoworxx benchmark performs the following tasks on a very large RGB image:

  • Fill
  • Flip
  • Rotate90R (rotate 90 degrees CW)
  • Rotate90L (rotate 90 degrees CCW)
  • Random (fill the image with random colored pixels)
  • RGB2BW (color to black & white conversion)
  • Difference
  • Crop

The Zip Library test measures combined CPU and memory subsystem performance through the public ZLib compression library. ZLib is designed as a free lossless data compression library for use on virtually any computer hardware and operating system. The ZLib data format is itself portable across platforms and has a footprint independent of input data that can be reduced at some cost in compression.

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The AES integer benchmark measures CPU performance using AES data encryption. It utilizes Vincent Rijmen, Antoon Bosselaers and Paulo Barreto's public domain C code in ECB mode and consumes 48 MB of memory.

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While I normally like to put both of the Everest integer performance tests on one graph, the Core i5-6500K made that impossible this time. With the new Sandy Bridge processors, Intel made some major changes to the way their CPUs handle AES compression. This new processing is a boon to webmasters everywhere, as well as anyone who deals with encrypted files on a regular basis. With that in mind, the Core i5 processor completely destroys the competition in the AES test.

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Next we will take a look at the Passmark Performance Test results.

Passmark Performance Test

PassMark Performance Test is a PC hardware benchmark utility that allows a user to quickly assess the performance of their computer and compare it to a number of standard 'baseline' computer systems. The Passmark Performance Test CPU tests all benchmark the mathematical operations, compression, encryption, SSE, and 3DNow! instructions of modern processors.

In our tests there were several areas of concentration for each benchmark, which are combined into one compound score. This score is referred to as the CPU Mark, and is a composite of the following tests: Integer Math, Floating Point Math, Find Prime Numbers, SSE/3DNow!, Compression, Encryption, Image Rotation, and String Sorting. For this review, we've also decided to run the memory benchmark, which results in a composite score based on the following tests: small block allocation, cached read, uncached read, write performance, and large block allocation.

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Up next are the results from the PCMark Vantage Benchmark tests.

PCMark Vantage Benchmark Tests

PCMark Vantage is an objective hardware performance benchmark tool for PCs running 32- and 64-bit versions of Microsoft Windows Vista or Windows 7. PCMark Vantage is well suited for benchmarking any type of Microsoft Windows Vista/7 PC: from multimedia home entertainment systems and laptops, to dedicated workstations and high-end gaming rigs. Benchmark Reviews has decided to use a few select tests from the suite to demonstrate simulated real-world processor usage in this article. Our tests were conducted on 64-bit Windows 7, with results displayed in the chart below.

TV and Movies Suite

  • TV and Movies 1 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, SSD=3%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Video transcoding: HD DVD to media server archive
    • Video playback: HD DVD w/ additional lower bitrate HD content from HDD, as downloaded from net
  • TV and Movies 2 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, SSD=3%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Video transcoding: HD DVD to media server archive
    • Video playback, HD MPEG-2: 19.39 Mbps terrestrial HDTV playback
  • TV and Movies 3 (SSD=100%)
    • HDD Media Center
  • TV and Movies 4 (CPU=50%, RAM=2%, GPU=45%, SSD=3%)
    • Video transcoding: media server archive to portable device
    • Video playback, HD MPEG-2: 48 Mbps Blu-ray playback

Gaming Suite*

  • Gaming 1 (CPU=30%, GPU=70%)
    • GPU game test
  • Gaming 2 (SSD=100%)
    • HDD: game HDD
  • Gaming 3 (CPU=75%, RAM=5%, SSD=20%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • CPU game test
    • Data decompression: level loading
  • Gaming 4 (CPU=42%, RAM=1%, GPU=24%, SSD=33%)
    • Three simultaneous threads
    • GPU game test
    • CPU game test
    • HDD: game HDD

Music Suite

  • Music 1 (CPU=50%, RAM=3%, GPU=13%, SSD=34%)
    • Three simultaneous threads
    • Web page rendering - w/ music shop content
    • Audio transcoding: WAV -> WMA lossless
    • HDD: Adding music to Windows Media Player
  • Music 2 (CPU=100%)
    • Audio transcoding: WAV -> WMA lossless
  • Music 3 (CPU=100%)
    • Audio transcoding: MP3 -> WMA
  • Music 4 (CPU=50%, SSD=50%)
    • Two simultaneous threads
    • Audio transcoding: WMA -> WMA
    • HDD: Adding music to Windows Media Player

* EDITOR'S NOTE: Hopefully our readers will carefully consider how relative PCMark Vantage is as "real-world" benchmark, since many of the tests rely on unrelated hardware components. For example, per the FutureMark PCMark Vantage White Paper document, Gaming test #2 weighs the storage device for 100% of the test score. In fact, according to PCMark Vantage the video card only impacts 23% of the total gaming score, but the CPU represents 37% of the final score. As our tests in this article (and many others) has already proven, gaming performance has a lot more to do with the GPU than the CPU, and especially more than the hard drive or SSD (which is worth 38% of the final gaming performance score).

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Moving on, we have results from the SiSoftware Sandra test suite.

SiSoftware Sandra

SiSoftware Sandra (the System ANalyser, Diagnostic and Reporting Assistant) is an information & diagnostic utility. It should provide most of the information (including undocumented) you need to know about your hardware, software and other devices whether hardware or software.

It works along the lines of other Windows utilities, however it tries to go beyond them and show you more of what's really going on. Giving the user the ability to draw comparisons at both a high and low-level. You can get information about the CPU, chipset, video adapter, ports, printers, sound card, memory, network, Windows internals, AGP, PCI, PCI-X, PCIe (PCI Express), database, USB, USB2, 1394/Firewire, etc.

The SANDRA DhryStone and Whetstone tests are CPU tests that run completely within the CPU + cache memory itself. These tests are perfect for seeing general efficiency per processing core. Dhrystone is basically a suite of arithmetic and string manipulating programs and is an older CPU tests. Even so, it remains a simple and accurate way to show RAW CPU processing performance. The whetstone benchmark primarily measures floating-point arithmetic performance.

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Cinebench R11.5 is a great CPU specific benchmark. Its results are up next.

Cinebench R11.5 Benchmarks

Maxon Cinebench is a real-world test suite that assesses the computer's performance capabilities. Cinebench is based on Maxon's award-winning animation software, Cinema 4D, which is used extensively by studios and production houses worldwide for 3D content creation. Maxon software has been used in blockbuster movies such as Spider-Man, Star Wars, The Chronicles of Narnia and many more. Cinebench Release 11.5 includes the ability to more accurately test the industry's latest hardware, including systems with up to 64 processor threads and the testing environment better reflects the expectations of today's production demands. A more streamlined interface makes testing systems and reading results incredibly straightforward.

The Cinebench R11.5 test scenario uses all of a system's processing power to render a photorealistic 3D scene, "No Keyframes" the viral animation by AixSponza. This scene makes use of various algorithms to stress all available processor cores. The OpenGL graphics card testing procedure uses a complex 3D scene depicting a car chase with which the performance of your graphics card in OpenGL mode is measured. During the benchmark tests the graphics card is evaluated by way of displaying an intricate scene that includes complex geometry, high-resolution textures, and a variety of effects to evaluate the performance across a variety of real-world scenarios.

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Next we will take a look at a CPU intensive video game, Street Fighter IV.

Street Fighter IV Benchmark

PC-based video games can depend heavily on the CPU if the attached GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) is less powerful, or the graphics settings are configured so low that they create no strain on the video card and must rely purely on system processing speed; a phenomenon known as CPU-dependence. The opposite is true when the video game has a powerful video card installed, and can handle all graphical demands without receiving assistance from the CPU. Benchmark Reviews has proven consistently that, with a high end GPU in use, frame rates are not often noticeably impacted by changes in processor or RAM.

Capcom's Street Fighter IV is part of the now-famous Street Fighter series that began in 1987. The 2D Street Fighter II was one of the most popular fighting games of the 1990s, and now gets a 3D face-lift to become Street Fighter 4. The Street Fighter 4 benchmark utility was released as a novel way to test your system's ability to run the game. It uses a few dressed-up fight scenes where combatants fight against each other using various martial arts disciplines. Feet, fists and magic fill the screen with a flurry of activity. Due to the rapid pace, varied lighting and the use of music this is one of the more enjoyable benchmarks.

Street Fighter IV uses a proprietary Capcom SF4 game engine, which is enhanced over previous versions of the game. In terms of 3D graphical demand, Street Fighter IV is considered very low-end for most desktop GPUs. While modern desktop computers with discrete graphics have no problem playing Street Fighter IV at its highest graphical settings, integrated and mobile GPUs have a difficult time producing playable frame rates with the lowest settings configured.

While PC games are generally playable regardless of CPU, the Street Fighter IV game is surprisingly dependent on the CPU. That is why it is included here.

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Let's take a look at some video transcoding tests next.

Video Transcoding Tests

ArcSoft MediaConverter 7

ArcSoft MediaConverter 7 is a powerful and easy-to-use all-in-one multimedia file converter. This utility quickly and effortlessly converts multimedia files into formats optimized for use on your mobile phone, PMP, TV, and many other popular devices. Newly added is the ability to turn your 2D photos and videos into 3D for playback on supported devices, as well as uploading to YouTube. Your desired media is just one click away! ArcSoft MediaConverter 7 takes advantage of Intel QuickSync when transcoding videos, making it a powerful tool for testing media transcoding capabilities.

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Handbrake 0.9.4 Video Transcoder

HandBrake is an open-source, GPL-licensed, multiplatform, multithreaded video transcoder program designed to convert MPEG video (including DVD-Video) into an MPEG-4 video file in MPEG-4 Part 14 (.mp4) or Matroska (.mkv) containers. The program is used to convert DVDs into other forms so they can be viewed on portable media devices and with most media players. While Handbrake was originally developed for BeOS, it is now available for Linux, Microsoft Windows and Mac OS X.

Handbrake is a readily available program that easily handles and utilizes multiple CPU cores and threads. This makes it an ideal program for us to use to test CPU performance. The amount of time it takes for Handbrake to convert a media file scales very nicely based on the clock speed and available cores of the CPU. For this test, I used a 1.12GB video file in MPEG format to be converted to MP4 format using the "iPhone &iPod Touch" presets. I recorded the total time in (min:sec) that it took to transcode the video file.

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That's it for the benchmarks. Let us know what you think below.

A8-3850 Overclocking

Overclocking the Lynx platform is quite a bit more difficult than it was on the previous generation of AMD platforms. The Athlon-II and Phenom-II series of CPUs were excellent overclockers, and it was easy to do. With Black Edition Processors, the CPU multiplier was unlocked and you could crank it up as high as it would go and still boot. This is the best way to overclock the CPU alone, as increasing the reference clock ends up overclocking the RAM and GPU (if one is onboard) as well. On the A-Series APUs, however, the reference clock is the only way to overclock. Overclocking enthusiasts were dismayed when the Sandy Bridge CPUs were locked down tight on the H67 boards and severely limited on the P67 boards. Luckily, the AMD A-Series APUs are not limited to Turbo overclocking only, but, as I said, the only way to overclock them is through increasing the reference clock. The CPU and GPU are completely locked.

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With the ASUS F1A75-M PRO motherboard, even overclocking with just the reference clock was a breeze. With the voltage set to AUTO, it automatically increased based on where the reference clock was at. The only tweaking I really had to do was playing around with the numbers to get the highest overclock possible. I also had to tune down the RAM settings because the reference clock hits everything, so the RAM was out of its league while the CPU and GPU were still cooking.

I started off the overclocking by increasing the reference clock from 100MHz to 125MHz. Everything ran solid at that level, so I continued on. At 133MHz I was able to boot into Windows fine, but the stress testing failed. I scaled back 1MHz at a time to 130MHz, where everything past the testing. I had to scale back the RAM a little as well. The RAM I am using is rated for 1600MHz, so overclocked it got a little too high. I scaled back to what would normally be 1333MHz on the RAM so it sat at 1733MHz after the overclock. Check out our review of the AMD A8-3850 APU for the overclocking results.

Temperature

The ASUS FM1A75-M Pro runs very cool. This seems to be a trend with 32nm processors systems and is one that I look forward to the industry enhancing in the future. When testing the temperature of the A8-3850, the ambient temperature stayed at a constant 22 degrees Celsius.

Fresh Startup (15 min idle)

24 degrees

After 2hr Netflix Stream

37 degrees

Prime95 & Furmark Stress Test (2hr)

51 degrees

After 24 hours of normal use

40 degrees

Power Consumption

Power Consumption was very impressive as well. With discrete level graphics, I would have expected a much higher pull from the system. The following is a measure of the power consumption of the complete system at certain points during operation. Measurements were taking with a P3 Kill-A-Watt meter. While these wattages are somewhat low, it is important to note that they are definitely higher than the Sandy Bridge H67 platform with an i5-2500K CPU.

Idle

48 Watts

During 2hr Netflix Stream

90 Watts

Gaming

117 Watts

Prime95 & Furmark Stress Test (2hr)

162 Watts


ASUS F1A75-M Pro Motherboard Conclusion

IMPORTANT: Although the rating and final score mentioned in this conclusion are made to be as objective as possible, please be advised that every author perceives these factors differently atasus_logo_blue_300px.png various points in time. While we each do our best to ensure that all aspects of the product are considered, there are often times unforeseen market conditions and manufacturer changes which occur after publication that could render our rating obsolete. Please do not base any purchase solely on our conclusion, as it represents our product rating specifically for the product tested which may differ from future versions. Benchmark Reviews begins our conclusion with a short summary for each of the areas that we rate.

ASUS is solidly consistent when it comes to their motherboards. I have always been impressed by their dedication to providing a lot of different options for their consumers, even when the chipset manufacturers don't include all the options. ASUS also consistently provides high performing, long-lasting, durable components. We have come to expect this from ASUS and so it would be a surprise to see anything different. ASUS does not disappoint with their A75 motherboard, the F1A75M-Pro.

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With so much of the new A75 Chipset relying on components built into the APU, ASUS has to find other ways to tune the performance of the F1A75M-Pro. The A8-3850 APU performs very well for its price point, battling successfully against the Intel Core i3-2100. The integrated Radeon HD6550D proved to be more than twice as fast at times as the 2nd Generation Intel HD Graphics. For the most part, even the CPU portion of the A8-3850 APU ran faster than the i3-2100. This didn't occur in all areas, however, which is a little disappointing. Still, I can't fault ASUS for that. ASUS' specific implementations that helped improve performance across different areas were the TPU and EPU and the MemOK! button.

ASUS is generally big on appearance. Their motherboards have a tendency to look cool, even if it means some of the features don't do much. That is certainly the case on the F1A75-M Pro motherboard, at least with the heatsink that sits above the MOSFETs. Since it doesn't cover the PWM at all, it isn't going to displace much heat from that. The components it does cover aren't likely to generate much heat at all, so the heatsink is purely cosmetic. With the ASUS 990FX motherboard I reviewed a few weeks ago, the color scheme matched up with other AMD motherboards and ASUS strayed from the wavy style heatsinks. On the F1A75-M Pro, the wavy, Sydney Opera House-esque heatsinks are back and the colors are blue and black. That matches up more closely with their traditional Intel chipset colors. While the colors don't do anything functional, I kind of liked the opposing color schemes for the different chipset manufacturers.

While ASUS didn't have a lot to do with the performance seen from the A8-3850 through the F1A75-M Pro motherboard, they had everything to do with the motherboard construction. They start off right with great quality components. ASUS uses Solid State High-Quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors for enhanced longevity and efficiency. Their solder quality is top-notch. Even their heatsinks, while arguably stylish or not, are high quality. The motherboard components and connectors are all solidly in place. I always get worried and I am a little concerned when the SATA, USB, or Power Connections are a little loose. I am scared to plug things in, especially with my fat fingers, lest I break a component off. This is not the case with the F1A75-M Pro.

Even with a lot taken out of their hands, ASUS still provides plenty of extra functionality with the F1A75-M Pro. Overclocking is somewhat of a bust, considering the only way to overclock is through increasing the reference clock. Still, ASUS provides the TPU for automatic overclocking and their uEFI allows you to set specific overclocking profiles. Speaking of the uEFI, it is an extreme upgrade in functionality over older BIOS setups all by itself. The DIGI+ VRM is very functional, allowing for precision tuning of the voltages and power management. The EPU helps by conserving energy when turned on. Another functionality boost comes from the AI Charger that boosts the speed at which your USB devices charge. Anti-Surge, AI Suite II, and MemOK!, in addition to the Realtek controllers for Audio and GbE all add to functionality as well. As I said before, ASUS knows what their consumers want and consistently strives to supplement native features with their own.

As of July 2011 the ASUS F1A75-M Pro is priced for $120 at Newegg, the ASUS F1A75-M Pro motherboard sits pretty close to the top of the A75 motherboards in price. The most expensive are around $130, with the least expensive coming in around $70. Of course, on those really inexpensive motherboards, you won't find features like DIGI+ VRM, TPU, EPU, MemOK! and all the others we've mentioned. High quality components also feature into the mix, as do a full four DIMM slots. ASUS does offer a cheaper A75 motherboard, the F1A75-M, but it doesn't include many of those features. It also uses other third-party controllers for Audio and GbE. So, compared to the $10 less expensive ASUS F1A75-M, I'd say the F1A75-M Pro is worth it. Of course, for $10 more than that and you could go for the F1A75-V Pro that comes with more PCIe x1 slots and a larger form factor. My point here, I suppose, is that ASUS products generally run a little more expensive than other products. They have the reputation and features to support it, so I'd say it's worth it, but I would never complain if I found an ASUS product a little more toward the middle or low-end of the price scale.

Pros:

+ micro ATX Form Factor
+ DIGI+ VRM with TPU and EPU
+ uEFI replacement for BIOS
+ High Quality Components
+ MemOK! Button
+ Easy Overclocking

Cons:

- At the top of price range
- Still has Legacy PS/2 and D-Sub Ports
- Second PCIe x16 slot runs at x4

Ratings:

  • Performance: 9.00
  • Appearance: 8.00
  • Construction: 9.50
  • Functionality: 9.50
  • Value: 8.50

Final Score: 8.90 out of 10.

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# RE: ASUS F1A75-M PRO FM1 Motherboardbemused 2011-07-14 03:58
""CON - Still has Legacy PS/2 and D-Sub Ports ""

How is that a con ?

Their inclusion adds functionality. It may be a function you have no need for , but it is there.

HDMI, DVI + D-Sub.... your logic... I dont need HDMI or DVI so it is a con that they have those ports.
That makes no sense at all.
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# Adds functionality?Hank 2011-07-14 18:24
If you have need of a VGA port, you are actually losing functionality in the form of image quality. You are under-utilizing your PC. Do yourself a favor and upgrade to a monitor that accepts a digital signal.

The funny thing is, almost no one uses CRT monitors anymore and LCD monitors are inherently digital. If you have an old VGA LCD then you are losing twice since you signal has to be converted to analog to go through the cable, then back to digital to be read by your monitor.

If you see it as a Pro, then good for you. I see it as a con. That's just my opinion.
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# you wrong about d-subGreg 2011-10-09 10:06
look at the resolution maxes, there is your answer. That conversion stuff is BS, many TV reviewers know this and sometimes even review the d-sub with superior video to the hdmi depending on the equipment.It has to do with the display, quality of d-sub cable, resolution and more. Not to mention, d-sub will be far more compatable with more displays and resolutions. Unless your eyes are maxed out at 1080p resolution, I just think it is nice they left that option for those that like higher resolutions, or need them for work. Analog is always superior, unless the world you record on video and audio is digital, it always will be.
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# I think I got off trackHank 2011-07-14 20:49
The reason I called it a con was because I think the space could be much better served by a pair of USB ports instead of a PS/2 port and maybe a displayport instead of the D-Sub. I think adding functionality relative to present and future technology would serve consumers better than antiquated tech.

-Hank
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# Video OptionsZaphod 2011-10-06 08:48
That's funny as I was actually looking at the motherboard specifically because of it's support for multiple monitors :)

Thanks for review, I found it very informative.
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# RE: ASUS F1A75-M PRO FM1 MotherboardDoug Dallam 2011-07-20 22:09
Hey Hank. Thanks for the review. I haven't even read it yet, but got pulled into the posts because of something i recently did where I needed a PS/2 keyboard port. I accidentally set my BIOS so it didn't recognize USB ports. lol. So I had to plug in an old PS/2 keyboard to even get into the BIOS. I'm with you though, since I could have simply reset the BIOS and then loaded my other settings in the BIOS utility.

PS--Don't feed the trolls.
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# RE: ASUS F1A75-M PRO FM1 MotherboardDoug Dallam 2011-07-20 22:11
"The I/O panel of the F1A75-M Pro has a lot to offer, especially for a relatively inexpensive motherboard. It starts off with a nice legacy PS/2 port."---LMAO. That was well delivered. LOL still laughing.
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# RE: ASUS F1A75-M PRO FM1 MotherboardDoug Dallam 2011-07-20 22:26
Well just finished it. I love the EFI. When I read your review on the new EFI for the BIOS I immediately thought--uh, yeah, when was the last time a BIOS looked or functioned much different than it did in 1982? Geeze. It's about time, right? All these new toys coming out. Next time I upgrade my platform, I'll be in for a treat--and the price. Wow. (I paid almost 300USD for my Gigabyte UD5 Extreme ver2. Next time I may opt for a budget board given all of the stuff that comes on them these days.)
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# A couple of strange resultsET3D 2011-07-21 00:58
The A8-3850 is typically a little slower than the PII X4 840, except in two cases:

Passmark 7.0, where it's second place only to the i5.

PCMark Vantage Music test, where the score is extremely low.

Either there's an error in the graphs, or these results should be investigated.
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# PCMark Vantage TestsHank 2011-07-21 09:24
Be sure to read the disclaimer at the top of the PCMark Vantage test page. The charts are correct, though I can't claim to understand the reason why the music tests are so sporadic.

As for the CPU tests in Passmark 7.0, those are correct too. It might have a lot to do with the fact that the "northbridge" was moved onto the die so communication between the CPU and other parts of the system is dramatically increased. Check out the Cinebench results, too. You have a 2.9GHz CPU that is very close to the same performance as a 3.2GHz CPU. A lot has changed with the architecture and different tests will respond in different ways to those changes.
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# PassmarkET3D 2011-07-21 12:43
It's interesting that Tweaktown got under 4000 in Passmark for the same CPU. Although the results on the Passmark site are closer to 6000, so I guess that's what most people get. Might just be a lot of variability. The score here is still pretty high, even compared to the one on the Passmark site. The rest of the CPU's are closer.
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# RE: ASUS F1A75-M PRO FM1 MotherboardPinakio 2011-07-21 07:59
So the 'Opera-House' is back! Was hoping that Asus got read of it, guess that's not the case:(
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# nice. but w/ expected resultsReSeRe 2011-07-21 14:28
not bad. atually the biggest enemy is the monopoly. so every tie MD btreath, i'm happy. in time i had both CPU/GPU/MB intel and amd. anyway, the race is tougher in GPU. really tight. but in main, AMD try to take advantage of any intel down. which is normal. and benefic for us.
Nice review. And one question i can't understand here, on z68 and so on:

if 1st PCIE is x16 and 2nd is x4, with XFire and 2 dedicated video boards, it will work in x8/x8? or only in x16/x4? that means no AFR like?
Thanks a lot in advance for anyone's answer.

Michael.
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# PCIHank 2011-08-02 16:14
It's x16 / x4 only, no x8/x8. But you can pair a discrete GPU with the on-die GPU if you want, although a high end GPU would still give you better performance.
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# sorry for mistakes.ReSeRe 2011-07-21 14:30
was in a lot of hurry. "every time AMD breathe". an so on.
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# Choosing a MBMozyz 2011-07-28 21:17
If you could lend me a hand in selecting a decent MB?

I was wondering wether the F1A75-M PRO is a MB that you would personally buy for its value? Would you recommend any other MB's for around the same price, for I am in a jolly of a pickle in choosing the optimal MB. I would be using it for video processing, video games, and etc.

Thanks in advance,
Mosi.
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# hello MozyzReSeRe 2011-07-30 05:03
Hello,
1st of all, take my advice w/ a grain of salt. My pov could be biased, or at least not entirely fitting your needs.

my 1st choise is usually Asus, no matter is AMD or Intel. but i do respect Gigabyte, MSI, EVGA and i do believe AsRock is a good value.
Remember, in entry/main level big brands usually will charge u extra just for the brand. I mean in entry/main u DO have alternatives. otherwise, the MB is ok, BUT:

before, a little philosophy about video boards (GPU). i always pick a MB w/ BOTH SLI and XFire. cause never now when i'll switch between NVidia and AMD-ATI and which will be my pick in dual GPU boards. But with those new CPU w/ integrated video, philosophy may change a little. if its AMD CPU, we should go AMD GPU. the video in 3850 amd cpu it's way more powerful than intel i3, even i5 competition. but the CPU is below i3 2100 a little. not much. anyway your MB of choice despite it has 2 pcie slots, it will work in x16/x4 mode only AFAIK! so 2 discrete AMD board, even XFire scale better than SLI, will not be a perfect choise if u plan, i repeat, to go w/ 2 discrete graphic boards. but if u don't the MB u've picked is OK. but the
F1A75-V EVO will work on x8/x8.
this whole GPU discussion it's about hardcore gaming (let's say metro2033) at big resolutions. Today a top/near top AMD GPU will handle with no problem but in a year or some, maybe u,ll need more power and the future proof solution is to get yourself a 2nd GPU and bam! u're "safe" for another 1-2 year.
!!! if u planned this way BUY A GOOD PSU, at least 750W. never underestimate the PSU!!!
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# 2nd partReSeRe 2011-07-30 05:04
OK, you've said "video processing". i'm not sure what u mean by that, what level u'll go: home, light production or heavy. if u're oriented in A: video editing, or B: 3D/composing.
If it's A, the processor should be fine, I mean the biggest, A8-3850, and u'll have to invest more in RAM (8G at least) and in powerfull HDD's: use RAID 0 with 2 HDD FULL 7200, not GREEN. i' working with Velocyraptors and older Raptors (all 10 000 RPM). if u have enough money, go SSD, BUT, u should pick powerfull and big ones which cost u a lot. A good solution COULD be Hybrid SSD-HDD new harddiscs, but i didn't dig enough to recommend this. Anyway, for video editing u should work in a RAID 0 config with 2 HDDs.
if it's B, video rendering, IMO the processor it's on the limit, i rather go if AMD with a 6 core proc (likeX6 1100T) skt AM3+. or intel starting on i5-2400.
in amd variant u'll not have integrated video in CPU, but u have to decide what fits your needs.
So your MB choise is very decent for the money, just be sure 'll use just one discrete GPU.

Both series from intel i3 and amd A IMO are for laptops and decent desktops. but that's all. told u in he beginnig i'm a little biased towards hardcore games and video editing. And in high end the choice is, unfortunately, only one.

It's hard to recommend, in the end the amount of $ make the difference. and the needs. and the management, and little things, and so on :)
And i don't pretend my pow is perfect. no way. Everyone feel free to upgrade it.
Good luck
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# Motherboard ChoiceHank 2011-08-02 16:16
Honestly,

If you are using this for high-end gaming or video processing, you should probably go with a completely different setup. The A series processors aren't meant for high end performance. They compete with the i3s. I'd go with a H67 for price and an i5 and a good discrete GPU for better performance, unless Bulldozer comes out soon and we can see how they perform.
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# what Hank saysReSeRe 2011-08-03 05:55
it's definetely true. le me start w/ the beginning.

10x Hank for forming me that MB's like that are ONLY x16/x4 and NOT x8/x8 too. for a vast majority of user it's ok. for me is BS.

Back to your toughs about Mozyz rig: as i saw, he hasn't enough money and my assumption is that he's only on the beginning on the road in video editing (escuse if wrong, but let's say a few cuts and transitons + a titler for youtube). and maybe medium gamer and so on. So, my philosopy was just don't go top of the top when u don't know the differences and just testing the path. Otherwise, i just made a config for a friend, video editor but with no much $ to spend: yes, it starts with i5.
nice day.
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# BIOSozone 2011-08-12 03:03
Uh, I guess the reviewer didn't make any attempt to upgrade the BIOS to 0802 July 27th 2011, which is only 4 days newer than the original BIOS. I would have liked to see his face when the PC would reboot after flashing the BIOS. It by-passes the ASUS splash screen and goes directly to a blue screen,[not a BSOD Win screen] with no info, no error messages, nothing. Pulling a jumper off the mainboard, pulling the battery out, unplugging the power cord for a monute and putting everything back does absolutely nothing. I've RMA'd this POS and will never buy ASUS again! My ass!
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# RE: BIOSDoug Dallam 2011-08-12 03:21
I felt just like you did aft4er I had to RMA my Gigabyte X58 UD5 rev1. POS wouldn't recognize 12GB of RAM. I was only getting 8. So yeah, great warranty on MBs. You send it in on your dime, and it takes a month to get it back. Well, you know what they did with my board? Said the BIOS was corrupted. That's it. They didn't even bench test it to make sure it would see 12GBsd of RAM. I wrote them back and asked if that was the RAM problem and they said they didn't know and asked me to test the board to make sure it would post. WTF? My bet is that they got the board, unpacked it, immediately packed it back into their shipping container, and called it a day. This way the customer gets sick of waiting 2-3 months to get his MB back and just gives up--like I did. I bought the same board, but rev 2--which is a much better board. RAM read 12GB in Windows perfectly. BIOS my ass.
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# RE: BIOSOlin Coles 2011-08-12 07:56
Uh, I guess the reviewer didn't attempt to upgrade the BIOS to a 27 July 2011 version, since this article was PUBLISHED on 11 July 2011 and all of his testing was done the week before. That would also mean you are wrong about the time between versions.
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# hdmi 1.4 ?Rolando Rahl 2011-08-17 04:17
hi! does anyone know if the hdmi port on this board is 1.4(a) or only 1.3 ? can't find any info on it. i would like to use it as a HTPC and connect it to a 3D LCD TV without buying an extra graphic card. thanks.
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# YesHank 2011-09-07 13:51
Sorry for the late response, but the HDMI port on this board is 1.4.

-Hank
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# HDMI 1.4?Kuan 2012-01-13 09:52
I connect to LG 3DTV 55LW6500 with HDMI 1.4 cable, powerdvd 11 and totalmedia theater 5, it won't show 3D.
Try DVI/HDMI Cable. It works but powerdvd downscale about 10%, totalmedia theater 5 work find but no sound in few ISO.
Any one try 3D bluray playback with HDMI 1.4 in this motherboard?

Windows7 64bit/Asus F1A75-M pro/AMD 3650
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# RE: HDMI 1.4?Olin Coles 2012-01-13 09:57
Your video card does not support 3D. I suggest a more recent NVIDIA GeForce video card for 3D support.
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# ATX power connectorsLance 2011-12-02 23:56
Hi there. Just to ask, on the F1a75-m PRO motherboards power connectors there is a 24-pin EATXPWR & a 8-pin EATX12V. With my PSU I only have a 4-pin EATX12V but ok with the 24-pin EATXPWR. Do I need a new PSU with a 8-pin?
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# RE: ATX power connectorsOlin Coles 2011-12-03 07:27
Hello Lance: your power supply will work just fine. Most modern motherboards come with an 8-pin EPS power socket, but will also accept a 4-pin P4 connection as well. Either works fine.
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# HDMI+dviLucas Brugneroto 2011-12-11 18:40
DVI and HDMI can works with the same time?

Thanks.
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# ProcessorNANDOMAN 2012-01-16 15:51
what kind of processor will the Asus F1A75 AMD supports ?
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# Linux Systems AdministratorWaldo Thompson 2013-05-28 15:55
Product Name: F1A75-M-PRO R2.0

Well after attempting to use 3 different Videos cards, 2 PCIe(both ATI and nVidia) and 1 PCI(both ATI and nVidia), I have found out that this Motherboard does not support Dual Video in anyway in the Linux Environment which is very strange as I have been using Linux for years and have never had a Motherboard that did not support multiple Video Cards as poorly as this board has.

The video Cards work beautifully on several different Motherboards such as BioStar, Gigabyte, and MSI, but the F1A75-M-PRO R2.0 does not support using a single PCIe & Integrated Graphics, nor PCI & Integrated Graphics, nor does it support PCIe & PCI together.

This is the worst motherboard I have ever purchased and such a waste of money that I cannot believe in this day and age of 2013 that it does not support the use of Dual Video Cards unless you are running Windows. This in IMOP is BS and inexcusable for a Company that is trying to pull Market Share and win customers they will never get me to waste my money ever again and I will be requesting a FULL Refund of the money spent on the POS Motherboard.

And yes I have double checked the BIOS to ensure that all settings are correct. I will from now on wait to have Motherboards shipped to me from those companies that have Motherboards that work as described as again its 2013 and this board doesn't have the ability to allow Dual Graphics in anything other than Windows.... WOW what a crock.
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